Archive for Recruitment


They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a new outcome.

It feels like that’s recruitment right about now.  Here I am on the hamster wheel, running my ass off, and then something goes to hell and I’m ass over tea kettle.

It’s to be expected that recruitment is more of a bitch now just because most people are in the mindset of “omg I must kill LK HM25 RIGHT THIS MINUTE otherwise I won’t have ‘finished’ Wrath before Cata is released”.  Of course this leads to people who’ve barely completed Lower Spire who are setting their minimum requirements for a new guild at 10 or 11/12 HM25.  It’s amusing and frustrating all at the same time.  Amusing because it’s unrealistic.  Frustrating because the top guilds are having to deal with the same attrition as everyone else so they’re more willing to take on projects.

But none of that makes it easier for me to recruit for our “measly” 9/12 HM25 guild.

We had an incident a couple of weeks ago that significantly contributed to my malaise.  Ever since I took on recruitment mid-Sunwell, I’ve been very serious and diligent because if the guild failed it would (in my mind) be because *I* failed at recruitment.  So I’ve always taken recruitment far too personally than I should.  I know that, can’t change it, but I’m at least aware of that character flaw.  🙂

Anyway, back to the story.  We had a a couple of people apply: tank, holy pally, and ranged dps.  The ranged dps just wanted to be guilded with their friends and fill in when needed, but not raid on a regular basis.  The other two wanted to raid.  Fine, no problem, we have no issues with friends being in guild so long as they don’t join as friends and then bitch about not raiding.  The tank and pally were both one HM farther progressed than us which was a bit of a concern since we’re not the top guild on our server and have no desire to be a feeder guild for them.  But aside from that minor issue, which would have been discussed during the interview, the both players were solid.

And then our holy pallies freaked out, one of them moreso than the other.  Because of it, we lost the opportunity of getting them in guild.  All because the one guildy who freaked out the most was concerned about not having a guaranteed raid spot and making sure that he had his 16 hours of fun raiding per week.

Now, anyone who has done recruitment is looking long-term.  You know who has a schedule that’s going to be iffy in the next few weeks or month and you know, especially at this point in time, that summer attrition and pre-expac lull are going to hit hard.  So you prepare and pick up more people.  Some guilds keep a deeper bench than others, but everyone prepares for summer the same way.

So instead of having a those players in guild and ready to step up into the positions that have recently opened (and having had them in the raid rotation these past weeks already), I’m still recruiting and trying desperately to make sure that we have enough players to continue to field raids so we don’t bleed other players and exacerbate the problem.

All because of one person’s short-sightedness and utter selfishness.

Due to some major RL things going on in my life that are taking up quite a bit of my time, I asked for people who were interested in taking over recruitment.  I simply don’t have the time available any more to be able to troll the WoW forums, hunt people down on their servers to talk with them, and follow-up with people in vent in a timely fashion.  My lack of availability directly affects the amount of new players we have transferring to join us.  Out of the 30 raiders in our guild, one person responded; they were willing to bump recruitment threads, but not one person was willing to take on the burden of recruitment.

I find it sad that I have raiders so concerned with getting their fun each week, but not one of them will actually put in some of the work to make sure that they can continue to get their raiding fix.

Unfortunately, the end result is that there is a very high likelihood that the guild will end up dying because of this.  I continue to do what I can, but I’m restricted by my available time.  It’s really sad to look down the road and see the end in sight.  As a guild, we’re 7 weeks shy of our 5 year anniversary; it will be interesting to see if we can pull our asses out of the fire long enough to make that milestone.


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ICC Update & Recruitment rambling

Not that I’ve really mentioned our progression before, but we finally got our shit together and netted ourselves a LK kill a couple weeks ago.  I don’t understand why we had a mental block, but after seeing the fight for about 22-24-ish hours we finally got it and were able to execute.

As a side note – It is SO irritating to go searching for tips and tricks that might help your guild only to see that every other person who is posting about what their guild did isn’t having the same issues.  Even worse, is that those people make it sound like they just danced through our “problem child” phase only to get stuck later.

Anyway, hooray for us!  LK is dead neener neener neeners!

As with all things, there was an equal and opposite reaction.  That day was the catalyst for a few of our newer members to decide that they were just bored with the game and so they decided to quit.  Not to harp on the subject (oh fuck it, this is my biggest pet peeve in game), but none of them said anything about it.  Not a peep.  One of them was actually in tells with another of our officers chatting for most of the raid and a decent portion of time afterwards about how happy he was that he transferred and joined us.  So happy in fact that he fell off the face of the earth and along with the other 3-4, stopped responding to PMs, emails sent to whatever address they used to register on the forums, and weren’t even responding to their friends that they had gamed with for a year and a half prior to transferring as a group to join us.

Seriously, how hard is it to find your balls and give the guild a heads up?

I admit it; I fall into the trap of taking recruitment and handling the new people way too personally.  We’re a progression-oriented guild; we’re not going to be out there getting world first kills, but we are bumping along quite nicely at around 1200-ish world.  But part of that, is that I’m clearly not cut-throat enough.  When people disappear with no warning, I assume that something happened that’s preventing them from getting in game.  I don’t immediately kick them and open recruitment for their spot.  Hell, I’ve had my fair share of job-hell, family dying, and just those times in your life when you want to hide under a rock for a while and wait for it all to blow over, and if I wasn’t kicked even though my attendance dropped (though to be fair, I gave notification with the exception of one time) how can I go and kick people just because they aren’t as tied to the forums as I am?  Well, we finally found out that two of the four sold their accounts since they were so bored with the game (yay for them also being in the raid when we killed LK so they got their “I beat the game” moment : / ) and another is probably selling as well.  /gkick /gkick /gkick  Once again, recruitment has kicked in and we’re in a major cycle.

To that note, for those of you who have been recruiting (or were even just raiding) for a long time – back in Vanilla leading up to the TBC release, or even just during TBC leading up to the Wrath release – are you seeing the same patterns in recruitment posts from individuals as you did during the incipient expac releases?  It seems to me that more and more posts are of people who are maybe halfway through ICC25, but want to join HM guilds or “top 100” guilds.  It feels like the ICC buff/nerf has hastened the expansionitis that people are feeling and they perceive Cataclysm is going to be released ASAP.  Other than that observation, recruitment is going fairly well.  Of course it helps that even though we’re looking for quite a few people/classes to fill in the holes, we’re still progressing in ICC25HMs and are currently 5/12.

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Hodir rep…how many more carrots do you people need?

I admit it…I’m the poor sucker who didn’t step back fast enough late in TBC; over the course of assisting our GM with recruitment, I became the recruitment officer when he quit WoW.  What on earth was I thinking?

Anyway, it’s a thankless job that someone’s got to do and that someone is me.  There’s a whole host of other people out there like me and we all have one pretty standard request:

Please, for the love of all that is holy, be exalted with the Sons of Hodir (or be a max level Inscriptionist).

I know what you’re thinking.  You hate to grind out reps.  I do too!  I hated doing the damn Hodir dailies:  polish the helm, blow the horn, thrust the spear, ride the damn protodrake (that I couldn’t figure out for the first several months), bang on the anvil, you get the picture.  Being on a PVP server just made it worse (especially since I’m allergic to PVP) and so I admit it, I slacked off and didn’t max my rep for a few months into Wrath.  I was a bad raider and I knew it.  But I finally sucked it up and got exalted with those Sons of bitches…Hodir because there’s no excuse to not have the best enchants available.

Then in 3.0.8, Blizzard made it easier, we could turn in the nifty little Relic’s of Ulduar for rep and give or sell them to others.  For some, this was the carrot they needed to finally hit exalted with the Sons of Hodir.  But for some of you, you were stubborn and didn’t want to farm rep nor did you want to buy relics to use for rep.

Once again, Blizzard came to the aid of the masses of people who hated the Sons of Hodir and their sexually suggestive quests and who had spat on Blizzards previous change to the Relics of Ulduar.  For them (and for the rest of us with alts), Blizzard came to the rescue in 3.2.2 by adding the ability to get Hodir rep by doing the daily dungeon quests.  And still people resisted.

Finally, 3.3.0 was released.  The Daily Dungeon quests were removed, but commendation badges could be bought for a single Emblem of Triumph.  Hodir reputation was sped up by 30% and Blizzard even increased the rep gains from the Hodir quests.  Additionally, the Hodir shoulder enchants were made Bind on Account so that anyone who had already done the “grind” on one character didn’t have to do it again so long as both characters were on the same server.  Yet, with all the changes that blizzard has made, there are still people out there who haven’t maxed out their reputation with Sons of Hodir.  Still!

Blizzard has done all but wave a magic wand and send every character a certificate in the mail that upon redemption gives our characters exalted rep with the Sons of Hodir.

If you’re running your random heroic each day, that’s generally anywhere between 4 and 8 badges depending on which instance you get and if your group clears every boss.  So worst case scenario, you’re getting 4 badges every 20-30 minutes of instance time (not including wait time, sorry dps :().  If you only get 4 badges, that’s 2080 rep with the Sons of Hodir if you redeem your Triumph badges for Hodir commendation tokens.

How many of you are actually lacking Triumph badges?  It is ridiculously easy to get Triumph badges now.  Take some friends and do a quick breeze through Naxx…poof!  Triumph badges.  Sit in the LFG channel when you’re hanging out in Trade and hop in a pug Wrath raid…poof!  Triumph badges.  No pugs going on on your server?  Meet some new people in the random LFG tool and spend an hour or more of your time doing a few heroics.  Again…more Triumph badges.

Yes you may hate doing heroics with the random group finder because you “always” get stuck with “bad” people, but clearly most people hate doing the Hodir dailies more.  So pick your poison:  easy badges to exchange for Hodir rep, or days of of prostituting yourself for the Sons of Hodir.

The only reason to not be exalted with the Sons of Hodir at this point in the expansion is because you’re lazy.  And take it from someone who does recruitment, if you want to get into a guild that is pushing new content (not just the bleeding edge guilds) and you’re demonstrating that you’re too lazy to improve your own character, we’re not going to give you a second look.

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